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All the minutes from our 2017 AGM
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The Bunkers Golf Society Annual General Meeting was held at The Junction Pub in Rainford on Tuesday 14th November 2017
It was a busy meeting with lots of key decisions made and information given. You can read all about it below...
The Bunkers Golf Society Annual General Meeting was held at The Junction Pub in Rainford on Tuesday 14th November 2017
It was a busy meeting with lots of key decisions made and information given. You can read all about it below...
attending:
1. Welcome by Steve BRADSHAW (Society Captain 2017)
The Captain offered his thanks for an outstanding season in 2017. He told members that he had been grateful to be given the opportunity to represent Bunkers and enjoyed the role thoroughly. He was extremely grateful for member support in all the charity fundraising initiatives throughout the season and for everyone for embracing his ideas. He also thanked the committee for their work and noted that since being voted as Captain and sitting on the committee during 2017, he has noticed what a huge amount of work everyone puts in to make Bunkers the society it is.
Steve then announced and welcomed our new 2017 Captain, Mr. Phil Williams.
Steve then announced and welcomed our new 2017 Captain, Mr. Phil Williams.
2. introduction by PHIL WILLIAMS (2018 Captain)
The incoming 2018 Captain Phil Williams thanked our outgoing Captain Steve Bradshaw and handed him a bottle of wine and an engraved wine glass as a token of thanks on behalf of the committee for his service to the society over the past 12 months.
Phil pointed out that he is a believer in "not trying to fix something that isn't broken" and clarified that although he will have his own opinions he will not make large swathing changes in 2018, "just for the sake of it".
Phil would like to continue with "The Captain's Charity" and invited members to put suggestions forward to him for local causes deserving of society funds. He said he would rather ensure it went to a cause than meant something to someone in the society, rather than a generic national charity.
Phil said he was looking forward to working with, and competing with, The President throughout the season in the Captain v President competition.
Finally, Phil thanked members for voting for him and explained that he was genuinely moved to have been asked to fill the role.
Phil pointed out that he is a believer in "not trying to fix something that isn't broken" and clarified that although he will have his own opinions he will not make large swathing changes in 2018, "just for the sake of it".
Phil would like to continue with "The Captain's Charity" and invited members to put suggestions forward to him for local causes deserving of society funds. He said he would rather ensure it went to a cause than meant something to someone in the society, rather than a generic national charity.
Phil said he was looking forward to working with, and competing with, The President throughout the season in the Captain v President competition.
Finally, Phil thanked members for voting for him and explained that he was genuinely moved to have been asked to fill the role.
3. agenda set out by STEVE EVANS [MEMBERS REPRESENTATIVE]
Steve Evans read out the agenda for the meeting and the areas of the society that would be covered. It was explained that there would be opportunities to vote and make suggestions at the conclusion of each presentation that was made by various members of the committee.
Steve also briefly explained his role as Member Representative and explained that he had managed to assist members with issues through the season without having to go to the committee - and that this was the basis of his role. In short, to help reduce any burden where possible and resolve issues without the need for it to be passed to committee. He also explained that he had "fought the Members corner" during committee meetings when he thought things needed to be said or challenged.
The terms of the meeting were set out and apologies offered for the following members who had made contact:
Apologies: Dave Ashley [President], Kev Givnan, John Morrison, Bobby Barrow & Jay Wright
Steve also briefly explained his role as Member Representative and explained that he had managed to assist members with issues through the season without having to go to the committee - and that this was the basis of his role. In short, to help reduce any burden where possible and resolve issues without the need for it to be passed to committee. He also explained that he had "fought the Members corner" during committee meetings when he thought things needed to be said or challenged.
The terms of the meeting were set out and apologies offered for the following members who had made contact:
Apologies: Dave Ashley [President], Kev Givnan, John Morrison, Bobby Barrow & Jay Wright
4. Review of the 2018 Season by Andy Roper (Chairman)
The Chairman opened by thanking the outgoing 2017 Captain, Steve Bradshaw on his fabulous season. The Chairman wanted it recording the meeting minutes just how much Steve has embraced and shown great enthusiasm for the role. It was mentioned how proud he should be of how he has represented the society in 'the right way', developed the role of Captaincy for future incumbents but particularly raised much needed funds for a superb local charity "Twinkle House" during his reign. The Chairman said that although Bunkers may be "just 30 odd lads hitting a ball around a field", we try do things the right way and every single person has spoken with the highest of respect for how Steve has handled the position during the season in keeping with Bunkers ethos and Mission Statement.
The Chairman then moved on to give his report on the Society during 2017 and informed everyone that the Society is continuing to grow, not necessarily in size but in terms of reputation and position in local golfing circles. The website continues to attract between 8000-10000 page views per month and the social media accounts are running well, with Twitter being a particular area of interest from people looking in at the society.
It was noted that we are aware of other societies, both locally and nationally, who are [for want of a better word] copying what we do. The Chairman said that we can take pride that people look at us and want to model themselves on what we have in place. It is a bit frustrating however when other societies seem to just take a ‘straight lift’ of things Bunkers do rather than making things original to themselves.
The society began 2017 with the 'ceiling limit' of 34 members in place. However, just prior to the season starting, one member left leaving a gap that could not be filled at such late notice [as we have to buy membership packs etc]. Also during the season, the committee had the unenviable position of having to exclude their first Bunkers member - a situation that they all very much did not enjoy. Furthermore, 2 members had not played a single event during the year and one other had only played once. In short, the society had seen roughly the same figures at 2016 despite running for the most part with 29 members - 5 short of our maximum.
A presentation was shown to cover season review - parts of this have been used below [click on the images to enlarge] or you can see the full presentation by CLICKING HERE
THE SEASON IN NUMBERS
The Chairman then moved on to give his report on the Society during 2017 and informed everyone that the Society is continuing to grow, not necessarily in size but in terms of reputation and position in local golfing circles. The website continues to attract between 8000-10000 page views per month and the social media accounts are running well, with Twitter being a particular area of interest from people looking in at the society.
It was noted that we are aware of other societies, both locally and nationally, who are [for want of a better word] copying what we do. The Chairman said that we can take pride that people look at us and want to model themselves on what we have in place. It is a bit frustrating however when other societies seem to just take a ‘straight lift’ of things Bunkers do rather than making things original to themselves.
The society began 2017 with the 'ceiling limit' of 34 members in place. However, just prior to the season starting, one member left leaving a gap that could not be filled at such late notice [as we have to buy membership packs etc]. Also during the season, the committee had the unenviable position of having to exclude their first Bunkers member - a situation that they all very much did not enjoy. Furthermore, 2 members had not played a single event during the year and one other had only played once. In short, the society had seen roughly the same figures at 2016 despite running for the most part with 29 members - 5 short of our maximum.
A presentation was shown to cover season review - parts of this have been used below [click on the images to enlarge] or you can see the full presentation by CLICKING HERE
THE SEASON IN NUMBERS
- Bunkers 2017 season consisted of 16 events [4 Majors, 11 Standard & the End of Season Trip]
Of those 16 events – 6 were weekday and 10 were of a weekend. - Of our 16 events, 12 were Stableford, 2 were Team events 1 was a medal and the end of season mixture.
- The average prize pot for 2017 was £112, which was down ever so slightly on the £115.05 in 2016. It was explained that this is solely due to how we have utilised sponsorship during the season.
The Chairman's opinion was that venues in 2017 had again been an improvement on previous years and that this season had offered not only better quality across the board, but also a greater value for money.
The average prices for each type of event we host through the season were as follows:
The average prices for each type of event we host through the season were as follows:
MAJORS £46.50 PER PERSON [£52.25 in 2016]
STANDARD WEEKEND £31.83 PER PERSON [£37.22 in 2016]
STANDARD WEEKDAY £35.80 PER PERSON [£40.50 in 2016]
STANDARD WEEKEND £31.83 PER PERSON [£37.22 in 2016]
STANDARD WEEKDAY £35.80 PER PERSON [£40.50 in 2016]
This made the 2017 season our best value to date. If a member had played every event in the year it would have cost them £555 compared to £791 in 2016. This would have made each event in 2017 £36.40 on average - which is excellent value especially considering the overall quality of venues and the food served at several of them,
How does that look compared to previous years:
The Chairman said it had been mentioned before that “members trust the committee to make the right decisions with their money” and that’s great – and hopefully nothing has changed. It was more a case of the Chairman and Committee wanting to show the evidence that when members make suggestions, it gets almost always gets done and we are always looking to improve based not he ideas and suggestions that members make during the season and at the A.G.M's
The Chairman put forward his mind-set for how he would like to approach selecting clubs in future. He pointed out "why book an expensive course for a Major and then have the added expense of trying to add food on top?"
We try [where possible] to eat at a Major event, so that it feels more of an special event to normal. But paying £40+ for golf only and then adding food makes this an expensive day. So unless the offer justifies it, Andy's feelings going forward are that we pick great local clubs that offer value for money and play the expensive venues [predominantly] as golf only and only add a snack if particular value is offered.
In terms of numbers of members playing at events through the season, the chairman highlighted the below slide:
- The average number of players attending over the season was 19 players – which is the same as the year before. Again highlighting how well we have done given that only 29 members really embarked on the season [as mentioned above]
The Weekday average was 15 players and weekend was 21 – this again is the same as 2016.
5. MEMBER SURVEY RESULTS BY ANDY ROPER [CHAIRMAN]
The survey was completed by 25 members and this provided some great feedback and interesting points;
From the survey we know that Brendan Smith, Ian Smith, Steven Moss would not be re-joining the society in 2018 and we wish them well. That means that for next season the society has 6 places to fill to take us back to 34. It was pointed out that 4 potential new members were present and there were 3 others who were unable to attend. The Chairman pointed out that the waiting list has been verified and now stands at 4 people and that this will remain the cap going forwards, so that people aren't "strung along" whilst waiting for any spaces to come up in the society.
PRICES
100% of members told us they have been happy with the overall costs this season and 92% prefer to pay their membership fees up front rather than see them added to the costs of individual days through the season.
1 - The Average Price members want to pay on average at a Major is £46
2 - The Average Price members want to pay on average at a Standard Event is £32.50
CLUBS
From the survey we know that Brendan Smith, Ian Smith, Steven Moss would not be re-joining the society in 2018 and we wish them well. That means that for next season the society has 6 places to fill to take us back to 34. It was pointed out that 4 potential new members were present and there were 3 others who were unable to attend. The Chairman pointed out that the waiting list has been verified and now stands at 4 people and that this will remain the cap going forwards, so that people aren't "strung along" whilst waiting for any spaces to come up in the society.
PRICES
100% of members told us they have been happy with the overall costs this season and 92% prefer to pay their membership fees up front rather than see them added to the costs of individual days through the season.
1 - The Average Price members want to pay on average at a Major is £46
2 - The Average Price members want to pay on average at a Standard Event is £32.50
CLUBS
Members voted for each course they had played during the 2017 season. They voted between 1 being the lowest and 5 being the highest and the following scores were collated for the courses we had on our schedule this season. Click on the images below to enlarge - but the table with the horizontal blue lines shows the range of scores between members. It’s interesting reading as it shows how tough it can be to find a course that pleases a majority of members and how everyone’s "golfing eye" differs. Some can vote low and some can vote high for the very same venue.
This just highlights that its all about opinion [or maybe even based on a members performance on the day?]
This just highlights that its all about opinion [or maybe even based on a members performance on the day?]
The Chairman told how the hardest price range of clubs to fill, but maintain quality, were the clubs costing in the £25 to £35 bracket. Typically, they are the ones that score in the 'worst clubs' column above but just because they do, does not necessarily mean they were 'poor' or we won’t return to them. It would be unfair to assume that just because a course costing £25 scored less than a course costing £50 that it wouldn't offer value for money and suitable quality for the price range. Also, a course could quite harshly find themselves on the above list purely because the overall quality of courses in the whole season were particularly high, as it was noted lots of members enjoyed the courses that found themselves on the 'worst course' list.
It was pointed out that to provide the season in line with the costs members tell us they expect, then there needs to be a degree of realistic expectation. If people are happy to pay £50 every time we play then so be it, but would it mean we have a better season than if we balance it between various costs, reputations and standards of quality? It was pointed out that a cheap course doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't offer relative quality. As said, that cheaper course bracket is always the trickiest to book, and invariably is the type of course that changes year on year - as opposed to the higher priced courses that are generally are the ones members prefer to keep.
GAME & FORMATS
- The majority of members preferred Stableford Scoring for Bunkers events
- The least popular formats were 'scramble' and Medal/Strokeplay - which The Chairman noted as odd given that the society has never really played a 'scramble' and it was a format he knew several of his playing friends enjoyed.
It was pointed out that to provide the season in line with the costs members tell us they expect, then there needs to be a degree of realistic expectation. If people are happy to pay £50 every time we play then so be it, but would it mean we have a better season than if we balance it between various costs, reputations and standards of quality? It was pointed out that a cheap course doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't offer relative quality. As said, that cheaper course bracket is always the trickiest to book, and invariably is the type of course that changes year on year - as opposed to the higher priced courses that are generally are the ones members prefer to keep.
GAME & FORMATS
- The majority of members preferred Stableford Scoring for Bunkers events
- The least popular formats were 'scramble' and Medal/Strokeplay - which The Chairman noted as odd given that the society has never really played a 'scramble' and it was a format he knew several of his playing friends enjoyed.
LMS
The Chairman noted that LMS 2017 had again been very well received but that it presented some very different feeling sot previous years due to issues encountered with the course and its condition at times throughout the season. The Chairman, along with members of the committee noted that Gathurst Golf Club had been Bunkers first choice to host the competition due to its long standing reputation as a superb local venue. It had also been a club that numerous committee members had been members at, or played at, for many years and it was renowned as having some of the finest greens in West Lancashire. However, due to some issues that were out of the clubs control - along with other problems - the course had not been at its finest this season. The Chairman asked for members to not 'write the club off' and invited members to return again in future to see it [hopefully] back to its former glory.
However, feedback for the club had been 'cutting' and 'very poor' in some very specific key areas. The feedback is as shown below. The green veridical green line is the 'average' score and the blue horizontal lines represent the varying scores given by members from highest to lowest.
The Chairman noted that LMS 2017 had again been very well received but that it presented some very different feeling sot previous years due to issues encountered with the course and its condition at times throughout the season. The Chairman, along with members of the committee noted that Gathurst Golf Club had been Bunkers first choice to host the competition due to its long standing reputation as a superb local venue. It had also been a club that numerous committee members had been members at, or played at, for many years and it was renowned as having some of the finest greens in West Lancashire. However, due to some issues that were out of the clubs control - along with other problems - the course had not been at its finest this season. The Chairman asked for members to not 'write the club off' and invited members to return again in future to see it [hopefully] back to its former glory.
However, feedback for the club had been 'cutting' and 'very poor' in some very specific key areas. The feedback is as shown below. The green veridical green line is the 'average' score and the blue horizontal lines represent the varying scores given by members from highest to lowest.
6. Finances and Payments by ste holmes (treasurer)
Money is always one of the most talked about areas of the society, and provides lots of suggestions and ideas - this year was no different. The Treasurer opened by pointing out that it continues that a small group of 4-6 members don't reply to him with a "Yes or No" if they are playing a particular event. It was pointed out that it is common courtesy and for all the work that is done by the committee for members, it was very little to ask for in return. The Treasurer also highlighted that the late payment fine in 2016 rarely got utilised and that this would change going forwards after we had been 'bitten on the bum' several times this season. The Treasurer was saddened to have to report that a member had been removed form the society in 2017 [the first time this had had to be done since our forming] and that this was down to issues surrounding money, payments and lack of communications. The finer details of this were to remain private between the committee and the member, but in short the society accounts were 'a few hundred quid short' due to this incident and the society were working with the person in question to try and have the money returned rather than go down a more formal route.
The Treasurer said that 2017 has been another big year for the society. There is a small reduction on 2016 in some respects, but this can be put down to the fact that we played 4 less events and had 2 less members this year, with 32 members compared to 34 in 2016 along with two other members not playing at all.
It was reported that the Society finances are currently healthy. The Balance carried forward from 2016 was approx. £2000 in credit and we now finish our 2017 season with a credit balance of £2940 [but £760 needs to be deducted form that in the coming weeks for membership refunds]. So the real balance is £2180.
The turnover through the society accounts is still quite unbelievable considering we are merely a small group of golfers. In 2017, we have paid £32,863 out from the account, which is a huge amount of money. From that, we have received payments of £33,700. That’s just shy of £67k we are shifting through the accounts in an 8-month period. Compared to 2016 which saw us turnover just on £67k in the same time frame. Again impressive given the reduction in member numbers and events this year. [NOTE- The difference between the incoming and outgoing in 2017 is larger than it will be as we have £760 in refunds due to exit in the coming weeks for members refunds]
Thanks was given to Chris Berry for his work in auditing the society accounts again in 2017 and for presenting the calculations and spreadsheets you can download HERE to see the full accounts for the season.
The Treasurer said that 2017 has been another big year for the society. There is a small reduction on 2016 in some respects, but this can be put down to the fact that we played 4 less events and had 2 less members this year, with 32 members compared to 34 in 2016 along with two other members not playing at all.
It was reported that the Society finances are currently healthy. The Balance carried forward from 2016 was approx. £2000 in credit and we now finish our 2017 season with a credit balance of £2940 [but £760 needs to be deducted form that in the coming weeks for membership refunds]. So the real balance is £2180.
The turnover through the society accounts is still quite unbelievable considering we are merely a small group of golfers. In 2017, we have paid £32,863 out from the account, which is a huge amount of money. From that, we have received payments of £33,700. That’s just shy of £67k we are shifting through the accounts in an 8-month period. Compared to 2016 which saw us turnover just on £67k in the same time frame. Again impressive given the reduction in member numbers and events this year. [NOTE- The difference between the incoming and outgoing in 2017 is larger than it will be as we have £760 in refunds due to exit in the coming weeks for members refunds]
Thanks was given to Chris Berry for his work in auditing the society accounts again in 2017 and for presenting the calculations and spreadsheets you can download HERE to see the full accounts for the season.
Some key facts from the 2017 season were presented:
- As agreed at last year’s AGM, each member paid £100 fees giving us a total of £3400 [£100 of this was refunded to the member who left the society just prior to the season starting] meaning in real terms we had £3300 coming in. It shows as £3297.50 on the chart as one member had £2.50 in credit and so that was taken off the £100 they needed to pay in!.
- Money paid out to clubs for deposits in 2017 = £1350 plus £640 for our end of season trip = £1990
- Prize spending in 2015 = £2060 - at an average of £112 per event.
- We spent £940 in Clarkes Golf in 2017 for prize vouchers and we received £840 from our sponsors during the season.
- From the £100 each member paid, they got £110 worth of value [see below]
Below is a table showing the clubs playing in 2017, the payments made and the costs incurred. Click to enlarge.
MEMBER SPENDING
Once again, another huge sum of money was spent by Bunkers members at Clarkes Golf Shops in 2017. The figures collected did not include driving range balls, nor any money spent in the cafe - but again highlighted the benefit in the link with Clarkes going forward. It was again pointed out that Clarkes have been with us since "Day 1" and are super supportive of the society and will continue to be so and that all members are encouraged to make all of their golfing purchases at the shop.
Once again, another huge sum of money was spent by Bunkers members at Clarkes Golf Shops in 2017. The figures collected did not include driving range balls, nor any money spent in the cafe - but again highlighted the benefit in the link with Clarkes going forward. It was again pointed out that Clarkes have been with us since "Day 1" and are super supportive of the society and will continue to be so and that all members are encouraged to make all of their golfing purchases at the shop.
SEVERAL IMPORTANT MOTIONS WERE PUT FORWARDED & VOTED:
The accounts were unanimously accepted by members as presented.
NUMBERS & FEES
We propose to retain the membership fee of £100 to cover deposits with a view to having a refund given at the end of the season [if available] – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the membership number shall stick at a maximum of 34 members – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that a £5 entry fee is included in LMS & CvP to contribute the winning prize [the alternative is that it is taken from membership funds] – MEMBERS PASSED
PRICES
We propose that weekend events be kept to an average of £35 over the season. The discretion of the committee will be used to determine what is value for money or not – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that Majors will on average be £50 and we will try to include some form of food before or after ONLY IF value for money is achieved – MEMBERS PASSED
Food at events will only be booked if it offers good value for money and will not be a given - MEMBERS PASSED
END OF SEASON
We propose the end of season trip should be within 2 hours drive of Liverpool - MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the end of season trip should be 1 night and 2 rounds of golf. DBB and include our Annual Awards presentation in a private area/room - MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the end of season trip 2017 be less than £150 per person– MEMBERS PASSED
Do we want to book a hotel venue that is all enclosed [Like Forest of Arden] or do we want to book the hotel and golf separate to give us more flexibility? The fores and againsts of this are everything under one roof, or potentially having to drive about etc.
Lengthy discussion was had by all members and it was PASSED that we should remain with a hotel venue, where 'everything is under one roof'
PAYMENTS & NUMBERS
We propose that the £5 charge will be implemented without prior contact and consent of late payment from The Chairman or Treasurer – MEMBERS PASSED
In 2016, we reserved most courses for 28 players. As you will see from our average numbers this was never achieved and on occasion has caused us problems with the club who complain that they are left with little notice to sell those returned tee times. We Propose to reserve all Majors for 28 places, standard events for 24 places and midweek events for 20 places. They will then be provided to members on a first come first serve basis. Once full, that it is – MEMBERS PASSED
The accounts were unanimously accepted by members as presented.
NUMBERS & FEES
We propose to retain the membership fee of £100 to cover deposits with a view to having a refund given at the end of the season [if available] – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the membership number shall stick at a maximum of 34 members – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that a £5 entry fee is included in LMS & CvP to contribute the winning prize [the alternative is that it is taken from membership funds] – MEMBERS PASSED
PRICES
We propose that weekend events be kept to an average of £35 over the season. The discretion of the committee will be used to determine what is value for money or not – MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that Majors will on average be £50 and we will try to include some form of food before or after ONLY IF value for money is achieved – MEMBERS PASSED
Food at events will only be booked if it offers good value for money and will not be a given - MEMBERS PASSED
END OF SEASON
We propose the end of season trip should be within 2 hours drive of Liverpool - MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the end of season trip should be 1 night and 2 rounds of golf. DBB and include our Annual Awards presentation in a private area/room - MEMBERS PASSED
We propose that the end of season trip 2017 be less than £150 per person– MEMBERS PASSED
Do we want to book a hotel venue that is all enclosed [Like Forest of Arden] or do we want to book the hotel and golf separate to give us more flexibility? The fores and againsts of this are everything under one roof, or potentially having to drive about etc.
Lengthy discussion was had by all members and it was PASSED that we should remain with a hotel venue, where 'everything is under one roof'
PAYMENTS & NUMBERS
We propose that the £5 charge will be implemented without prior contact and consent of late payment from The Chairman or Treasurer – MEMBERS PASSED
In 2016, we reserved most courses for 28 players. As you will see from our average numbers this was never achieved and on occasion has caused us problems with the club who complain that they are left with little notice to sell those returned tee times. We Propose to reserve all Majors for 28 places, standard events for 24 places and midweek events for 20 places. They will then be provided to members on a first come first serve basis. Once full, that it is – MEMBERS PASSED
7. society handicaps by craig evans [handicap SECRETARY]
Society Handicaps Page
The Handicap Secretary opened by explaining that handicaps are often the most talked about and contested areas of the society and that 2017 had been no different. He explained that he would like to take some time to explain how he does the handicaps and the problems he can encounter when doing so and why certain things occur in the handicaps.
The Chairman included that he wanted to put on record his thanks - and that of the society - for Craig's work with the handicaps and mentioned that they are probably as accurate as any handicap system anywhere due to the system that has been designed and the dedication to perfection that the Handicap Secretary puts into it.
SOCIETY HANDICAPS
It began with the charts below, that highlight the moves in handicaps experienced by members during the season. The Handicap Secretary pointed out that there was a direct link between the number of times you were playing and the direction a players handicap was going. The more golf you play, the more improvement you are likely to see.
Some key points were:
1 - The average Bunkers handicap is 13.4 - which is down 3.1% from 13.89 at the start of 2017.
2 - The average society handicap in the U.K is 17.8 and the average for Golf Club Members handicap in the U.K is 18.6
3 - On average, Bunkers members played 7 events per season in 2017
The Handicap Secretary opened by explaining that handicaps are often the most talked about and contested areas of the society and that 2017 had been no different. He explained that he would like to take some time to explain how he does the handicaps and the problems he can encounter when doing so and why certain things occur in the handicaps.
The Chairman included that he wanted to put on record his thanks - and that of the society - for Craig's work with the handicaps and mentioned that they are probably as accurate as any handicap system anywhere due to the system that has been designed and the dedication to perfection that the Handicap Secretary puts into it.
SOCIETY HANDICAPS
It began with the charts below, that highlight the moves in handicaps experienced by members during the season. The Handicap Secretary pointed out that there was a direct link between the number of times you were playing and the direction a players handicap was going. The more golf you play, the more improvement you are likely to see.
Some key points were:
1 - The average Bunkers handicap is 13.4 - which is down 3.1% from 13.89 at the start of 2017.
2 - The average society handicap in the U.K is 17.8 and the average for Golf Club Members handicap in the U.K is 18.6
3 - On average, Bunkers members played 7 events per season in 2017
Some key facts from our 2017 season are:
- The average winning Stableford score in 2017 was 37.4 and this showed that the handicaps in the society are pretty much spot on, as a winner should be shooting around their handicap to win an event.
- The average winning handicap in 2017 was 11.0 and the table below shows that we have a range of handicaps winning our events during the season.
- The table below also shows that a range of handicaps lose Bunkers events, which is what we want. Everyone should be in with a chance of victory, and equally should walk away with the losing 'bog seat' if they have a bad day.
- The "Year on Year" table below shows that we continue to see a downward trend in handicaps across the society and that although the handicap improvement as a percentage was down to 3.1% in 2017 from two years at 5.6%, it was felt that we continue to show that being part of the society, playing competitive golf on good courses and offering members discounts on lessons and golf green fees has fed further desire for members to improve.
The Handicap Secretary pointed out that there can often be a misconception amongst members about how they should be doing when they play. Some members believe they should be hitting more fairways, more greens and putting more putts into the hole that they actually do. There can often be an unrealistic expectation based on what people see on the TV and it was interesting to be given the figures below:
HANDICAP ISSUES RAISED BY MEMBERS
Craig mentioned that throughout the season several members had questions the handicaps given to new members when they joined Bunkers and how this process was organised. The traditional format was that members would hand in 3 cards that were countersigned and verified by another Bunkers member, but that could be played anywhere and at anytime. It was acknowledged that this system was slightly flawed as invariably these new members were joining the society in the winter months and playing 3 rounds with someone during winter golf conditions [mats, temp greens, shortened courses] and that clubs would not allow card to be submitted for handicapping on winter set ups. Therefore, cards may not have been as wholly accurate as they could have been - however, we would have expected this to have given the player an advantage in scoring and therefore a lower handicap from the cards. However, the committee had discussed the issues during their latest meeting and had ideas to submit [below].
The catalyst for the review was that two new members had won the Order of Merit in the past two seasons and both had seen handicap cuts on general play taking place during both seasons above and beyond the natural handicap reductions for their good play. It was agreed however that both players had both deserved their victories and both had played superb golf in their respective victory years with great improvements having been made to their games. The Chairman noted that Craig Masters had put a considerable time and effort into his game and with lessons with Barry Taylor had improved through hard work - which he had known through conversation with Barry through the year.
CARD COMPLETION
The Handicap Secretary pointed out a few issues cause when working out handicaps that was due to the poor marking of scorecards and it was highlighted that an "ideal card" was given as an example on the society website HERE
The Handicap Secretary gave members an example of how he input the card onto the computer system he has designed and how that automatically updates the handicaps based on certain key data. This showed the importance of making sure the scorecards were clear with accurate scoring and completed correctly. It was highlighted that any issues with card going forwards would be raised with members directly in an attempt to improve this issue going forwards.
Craig mentioned that throughout the season several members had questions the handicaps given to new members when they joined Bunkers and how this process was organised. The traditional format was that members would hand in 3 cards that were countersigned and verified by another Bunkers member, but that could be played anywhere and at anytime. It was acknowledged that this system was slightly flawed as invariably these new members were joining the society in the winter months and playing 3 rounds with someone during winter golf conditions [mats, temp greens, shortened courses] and that clubs would not allow card to be submitted for handicapping on winter set ups. Therefore, cards may not have been as wholly accurate as they could have been - however, we would have expected this to have given the player an advantage in scoring and therefore a lower handicap from the cards. However, the committee had discussed the issues during their latest meeting and had ideas to submit [below].
The catalyst for the review was that two new members had won the Order of Merit in the past two seasons and both had seen handicap cuts on general play taking place during both seasons above and beyond the natural handicap reductions for their good play. It was agreed however that both players had both deserved their victories and both had played superb golf in their respective victory years with great improvements having been made to their games. The Chairman noted that Craig Masters had put a considerable time and effort into his game and with lessons with Barry Taylor had improved through hard work - which he had known through conversation with Barry through the year.
CARD COMPLETION
The Handicap Secretary pointed out a few issues cause when working out handicaps that was due to the poor marking of scorecards and it was highlighted that an "ideal card" was given as an example on the society website HERE
The Handicap Secretary gave members an example of how he input the card onto the computer system he has designed and how that automatically updates the handicaps based on certain key data. This showed the importance of making sure the scorecards were clear with accurate scoring and completed correctly. It was highlighted that any issues with card going forwards would be raised with members directly in an attempt to improve this issue going forwards.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTED:
- Any new member joining the society will be able to play off whatever handicap they tell us. However, they will not be eligible to win any prizes, other than nearest the pins, unless they are providing a verified CONGU handicap from the outset - Motion AGREED & PASSED
- Any new member MUST play at least once with a member of the committee during their first 3 outings with the society - Motion AGREED & PASSED
- Any new member MUST submit 3 scorecards that have been completed in Bunkers events. These will then be used to provide them with an official society handicap - Motion AGREED & PASSED
- Paul Flaherty [amongst other members] expressed that any issues with card completion would result in disqualification at if you were a member at a golf club and that members should expect the same strict rulings with Bunkers. This was discussed and highlighted that the players involved in prize places and CvP competitions etc have their cards scrutinised on the day - any issues following this, that are experienced by the handicap secretary when inputting the cards should be dealt with by way of an informal warning in the first instance in the hope that members can learn to improve - Motion AGREED & PASSED
8. LAST MAN STANDING BY ANDY ROPER [CHAIRMAN]
Last Man Standing 2017 Page
The Chairman told those present that during the course of the 2017 Last Man Standing competition we have paid £1680 to Gathurst Golf Club and a further £360 for our society visit, plus £713 in food for our charity night – giving a total of £2753 provided by Bunkers Golf Society during 2017. It was also highlighted that this never included any practice round green fees, monies spent in the club shop or club house, nor the money put 'behind the bar' on the evening of our Charity event.
The Chairman told those present that during the course of the 2017 Last Man Standing competition we have paid £1680 to Gathurst Golf Club and a further £360 for our society visit, plus £713 in food for our charity night – giving a total of £2753 provided by Bunkers Golf Society during 2017. It was also highlighted that this never included any practice round green fees, monies spent in the club shop or club house, nor the money put 'behind the bar' on the evening of our Charity event.
Money spent in the pro shop and clubhouse are unquantifiable but it would not be an unrealistic estimate to suggest that it is in excess of £4000 that has been provided to Gathurst during the course of the season.
Andy pointed out that LMS17 has been a slightly unusually and certainly unfamiliar year with LMS due to some of the issues with the club condition through the season. The actual running of the competition, the ease of booking, the layout of the course and the warmth of welcome were unquestioned and have been great and it was again highlighted to members that Gathurst had been the committees Number 1 choice for host club and that ordinarily it sees some of the finest greens and course conditions in West Lancashire. It was again highlighted to members that this should not prevent them returning the club in future and it was widely acknowledged as one of the best course layouts for Matchplay golf that we have played.
The difference a few extra numbers makes is startling. In 2016 we played at Grange Park and 28 members took part, compared to 22 this season. Those 6 extra members signing up make a difference of over £2000 just on the basics alone. The competition offers superb value for members and also allows them to play golf with different people and that alone should be enough for members to sign up to the competition.
Key points from the survey were noted:
Andy pointed out that LMS17 has been a slightly unusually and certainly unfamiliar year with LMS due to some of the issues with the club condition through the season. The actual running of the competition, the ease of booking, the layout of the course and the warmth of welcome were unquestioned and have been great and it was again highlighted to members that Gathurst had been the committees Number 1 choice for host club and that ordinarily it sees some of the finest greens and course conditions in West Lancashire. It was again highlighted to members that this should not prevent them returning the club in future and it was widely acknowledged as one of the best course layouts for Matchplay golf that we have played.
The difference a few extra numbers makes is startling. In 2016 we played at Grange Park and 28 members took part, compared to 22 this season. Those 6 extra members signing up make a difference of over £2000 just on the basics alone. The competition offers superb value for members and also allows them to play golf with different people and that alone should be enough for members to sign up to the competition.
Key points from the survey were noted:
- The consensus is that members generally like the format of LMS and agree that green fee is great value.
- It was agreed that paying the group stage fees up front has had a positive impact on the competition and organisation of games, as well as the clubs perception of the society as being committed and professional.
- The key frustration again in 2017 was of those players who failed to complete their games and therefore left their opponents with green fee cards for rounds they had paid for but not played.
- The problems surrounding the knockout stage and the final, where members couldn't play their games in time or were unavailable for the planned final meant that the competition had a bit of an 'anti climatic' feel to it.
last man standing 2018
The Chairman was delighted to announce that LMS 2018 will be held at the venue of our very first LMS - Berrington Hall Golf Club in Rainford - which is a superb local course that is very well known to a number of our members and is certainly in keeping with what we have come to expect from the host clubs of our marquee competition.
Andy went on to explain that it was widely known that the society had encountered issues with the club in the past when it was known formerly as North West National. This was due to the management in place at the club at that time. It was made clear that since then, the club has been sold and an entirely new team were in place who had absolutely no links to the previous incumbents. The 2017 Captain, Steve Bradshaw added that he was close friends with one of the parties now in place at the club and the discussions had been initiated because of that.
In light of the new ownership, the club has taken a steep upward turn in its quality and the direction in which it is heading. It has always been [without doubt] a fantastic layout but the condition of the greens and parts of the course were sub standard. This has been addressed and thanks to investment, hiring of new staff and greens keepers the course condition is now befitting of the quality of the course. In short, the negatives of the venue had been addressed and members were assured by Steve Bradshaw and other who are now members at Berrington Hall, that the quality would impress everyone.
The Chairman explained that Steve Bradshaw had attended the club earlier that week for a meeting regarding the finer details and they were extremely complimentary of Bunkers. Subsequently, an email had been received by the Chairman from the club expressing their delight at being invited to his LMS once again and it was felt unanimously by all members of the committee that Berrington Hall would offer a fabulous host venue for the competition in 2018 for a large range of reasons.
Berrington Hall are fully supportive of Bunkers and a fixed green fee has been agreed in line with previous years along with other key issues that will be relayed to members in the fullness of time.
DETAILS OF THE COMPEITION IN 2018
The finer details of the competition and deal would be emailed to members in the coming weeks but it was felt that with the agreements in place, the plans for LMS and other items that would take place at the club during the season, that as many members as possible would hopefully sign up in 2017 and certainly in excess of 24 members from our 34.
Practice matches at the club can begin from 1st March 2017 with the competition running 1st April until 31st July for the group phase and 1st August until completion for the knockout phase. Entrants to LMS18 will be able to practice for the same price as they play in the competition.
Tee times can be booked on any day of the week when a club competition is not taking place. This flexibility from the club means that more members than ever should be able to enter the competition, as there will be a time to suit everyone. The only times [as far as we can tell] that will be unavailable will be between 8am and 10am on a weekend.
Members signing up to LMS18 will get an online log in to be able to view and book their tee times on the Berrington Hall website. Again, making the entire process simpler.
Andy explained that each year the society try to learn about what we can do to improve the LMS competition, but also to make it fairer across the board. One key area has been the scoring system. The Champions League format HAS to stay – because we need to reward the club financially by having plenty of matches. This year we paid just shy £3000 to Gathurst [as detailed in the accounts section above] and without that group phase set up we would only be paying around £800!
Another key issue has been that players don’t start their matches until 6-8 weeks into the event, primarily as most do not want to play in April and early May and run the risk of having tougher conditions which may penalise them in Stableford Scoring, or that they are waiting for fairer conditions and a summer quality course. Therefore, as per 2017, the entire competition will remain a Matchplay format so that it doesn't punish the players in poor weather as its simply a one-on-one match when the final score or conditions play no part in the results. Its just a player versus a player on the given day.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTES:
1 - Concerns were raised by a couple of members over the historical issues with the greens at Berrington Hall [The same members admitted they had not played at the club in 2/3 years] - Steve Bradshaw, Chris Parrish and Kev Murphy explained that with the new owners saw a new approach at the club, the hiring of new greens staff and the marked improvement at the club over the last 12 months. The greens were described as being "spectacularly better now they've hired the right people". The Chairman noted that the greens would ranked as a solid 8 out of 10 [if we said that Lee Park or Grange Park were a 10] - so in effect, they are very good.
2 - Chris Berry raised the issue that some members had been given an extension to play games that still never did so and it should be a case of "the rules are the rules' - this was AGREED unanimously going forward.
3 - Paul Flaherty suggested that the final SHOULD be held at the host club and as its Bunkers marquee event, members should appreciate this is "a big thing" and attend. This was agreed by The Committee, but noted that attempts to do this had failed and so they needed to be more flexible and leave it in the hands of the finalists themselves. That said, if they decide to play it at the host club - as many members as possible should go down and offer support.
4 - Dan Alexander asked could we add a "Point of Contact" for LMS to resolve any issues without disturbing the committee. It was highlighted that this role fell under what Steve Evans does and he should be the first person to contact and he will refer any matters to the committee if needs be - AGREED
Andy went on to explain that it was widely known that the society had encountered issues with the club in the past when it was known formerly as North West National. This was due to the management in place at the club at that time. It was made clear that since then, the club has been sold and an entirely new team were in place who had absolutely no links to the previous incumbents. The 2017 Captain, Steve Bradshaw added that he was close friends with one of the parties now in place at the club and the discussions had been initiated because of that.
In light of the new ownership, the club has taken a steep upward turn in its quality and the direction in which it is heading. It has always been [without doubt] a fantastic layout but the condition of the greens and parts of the course were sub standard. This has been addressed and thanks to investment, hiring of new staff and greens keepers the course condition is now befitting of the quality of the course. In short, the negatives of the venue had been addressed and members were assured by Steve Bradshaw and other who are now members at Berrington Hall, that the quality would impress everyone.
The Chairman explained that Steve Bradshaw had attended the club earlier that week for a meeting regarding the finer details and they were extremely complimentary of Bunkers. Subsequently, an email had been received by the Chairman from the club expressing their delight at being invited to his LMS once again and it was felt unanimously by all members of the committee that Berrington Hall would offer a fabulous host venue for the competition in 2018 for a large range of reasons.
Berrington Hall are fully supportive of Bunkers and a fixed green fee has been agreed in line with previous years along with other key issues that will be relayed to members in the fullness of time.
DETAILS OF THE COMPEITION IN 2018
The finer details of the competition and deal would be emailed to members in the coming weeks but it was felt that with the agreements in place, the plans for LMS and other items that would take place at the club during the season, that as many members as possible would hopefully sign up in 2017 and certainly in excess of 24 members from our 34.
Practice matches at the club can begin from 1st March 2017 with the competition running 1st April until 31st July for the group phase and 1st August until completion for the knockout phase. Entrants to LMS18 will be able to practice for the same price as they play in the competition.
Tee times can be booked on any day of the week when a club competition is not taking place. This flexibility from the club means that more members than ever should be able to enter the competition, as there will be a time to suit everyone. The only times [as far as we can tell] that will be unavailable will be between 8am and 10am on a weekend.
Members signing up to LMS18 will get an online log in to be able to view and book their tee times on the Berrington Hall website. Again, making the entire process simpler.
Andy explained that each year the society try to learn about what we can do to improve the LMS competition, but also to make it fairer across the board. One key area has been the scoring system. The Champions League format HAS to stay – because we need to reward the club financially by having plenty of matches. This year we paid just shy £3000 to Gathurst [as detailed in the accounts section above] and without that group phase set up we would only be paying around £800!
Another key issue has been that players don’t start their matches until 6-8 weeks into the event, primarily as most do not want to play in April and early May and run the risk of having tougher conditions which may penalise them in Stableford Scoring, or that they are waiting for fairer conditions and a summer quality course. Therefore, as per 2017, the entire competition will remain a Matchplay format so that it doesn't punish the players in poor weather as its simply a one-on-one match when the final score or conditions play no part in the results. Its just a player versus a player on the given day.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTES:
- The Chairman announced that the LMS18 final will not be prescribed as in the previous 2 years. It would be left down to the finalists to decide where and when they would like to play the match, as opposed to being told. This was in light of issues experienced over the last 2 seasons and should hopefully see a more 'common sense' approach. The options available to the finalists would be:
1 - To play the final during the end of season trip
2 - To play the final at Berrington Hall at a time & date to suit the finalists [hopefully with other members attending to show support and respect to the competition]
3 - To play the final on any Bunkers event at the end of the year if the members wished. So if we had a club booking in September or October that they fancied, they could choose to do that - MOTION APPROVED
- We propose that LMS Fees will be paid in advance as they were in 2016 & 2017 – MOTION APPROVED
- Scoring to remain as Matchplay for the 2018 season – MOTION APPROVED
1 - Concerns were raised by a couple of members over the historical issues with the greens at Berrington Hall [The same members admitted they had not played at the club in 2/3 years] - Steve Bradshaw, Chris Parrish and Kev Murphy explained that with the new owners saw a new approach at the club, the hiring of new greens staff and the marked improvement at the club over the last 12 months. The greens were described as being "spectacularly better now they've hired the right people". The Chairman noted that the greens would ranked as a solid 8 out of 10 [if we said that Lee Park or Grange Park were a 10] - so in effect, they are very good.
2 - Chris Berry raised the issue that some members had been given an extension to play games that still never did so and it should be a case of "the rules are the rules' - this was AGREED unanimously going forward.
3 - Paul Flaherty suggested that the final SHOULD be held at the host club and as its Bunkers marquee event, members should appreciate this is "a big thing" and attend. This was agreed by The Committee, but noted that attempts to do this had failed and so they needed to be more flexible and leave it in the hands of the finalists themselves. That said, if they decide to play it at the host club - as many members as possible should go down and offer support.
4 - Dan Alexander asked could we add a "Point of Contact" for LMS to resolve any issues without disturbing the committee. It was highlighted that this role fell under what Steve Evans does and he should be the first person to contact and he will refer any matters to the committee if needs be - AGREED
9. captain v's president by CRAIG EVANS [HANDICAP SEC]
Craig covered that the Captain v President competition in 2017 has been the most successful since we began. More members have taken an interest and this may be down to the new rules but also to the embroidered logos on shirts that meant members all knew who they represented. It was agreed that it offers additional banter in the season and was a good competition to keep interest going throughout the year.
It was agreed that just subtle changes needed to be considered to improve CvP and that this may all revolve around the "Joker" element of the competition. The following items were discussed.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTES:
It was agreed that just subtle changes needed to be considered to improve CvP and that this may all revolve around the "Joker" element of the competition. The following items were discussed.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTES:
- We propose that “Jokers” will be picked by The Captain & President on the day. However, rather than not finding out until the end of the day, they will be announced before play so the players know - MOTION PASSED
- We propose that the “Jokers” play in the same group so that they are aware of each others performance and adding extra competition and pressure. Rather than maybe ‘giving up’ on holes after a bad shot or two, rather than pushing to do well if you know your direct opponent is also struggling - MOTION PASSED
- Rather than double & triple points for players finishing in the Top 3. We propose that the Top 3 players scores on each team are taken. However, the overall winner on the day, wins their team 20 bonus points. The player finishing last has 5 points deducted from their team - MOTION PASSED
10. the ORDER OF MERIT BY phil williams [secretary]
Phil pointed out that the Order of Merit had been simplified in 2017 and seems to have had a positive impact on the competition. It was noted that those players who are in contention to win will naturally take more of an interest in it that those who are playing infrequently. It tends to be a competition that only becomes relevant to those players who play the majority of Bunkers events.
The competition rewards consistency and performance through the year and is a true reflection on players results through the year and therefore is a good competition for the society. Phil pointed out that he understands there are slight issues surrounding the OOM and in particular the understanding of the scoring systems in place. As with everything in the society we want to learn and improve things and this competition is no different.
Therefore, it was advised that the best way to approach the OOM would be to retain a "simple system" so that everyone could understand what was going on - the challenge was to make it more appealing to more members and to make people want to do well in it.
The Chairman spoke about the possibility of organising a match against another society and the 12 representatives for this match will be picked based on the OOM - similar to what's done for the Ryder Cup from the European Tour Merit system. It was discussed about making this an overnight trip somewhere to play a different society - but it was agreed that in the first instance we should do this as a single days play to see if it works and is something that grabs member interest. It was felt there was no point in creating extra work if ultimately people aren't overly fussed. For the test run, it was agreed by members that we should try and organise the match for late summer/September time and use the OOM table as it stands at that point. If it all works well, then in future seasons the team will be selected form the finishing places in October with the match being played in November each season.
Therefore, the suggestion is that the 12 players for Team Bunkers will be picked from the top 8 players in the OOM [if someone doesn't want to go, then the 9th person is asked and so on until 8 players are picked from the table] The Captain of the Society gets a free invite and can pick 3 wildcards from players who do not quality from the OOM. If the Captain does not wish to attend, then the committee will decide who will represent the society as Captain and the process carries on.
The competition rewards consistency and performance through the year and is a true reflection on players results through the year and therefore is a good competition for the society. Phil pointed out that he understands there are slight issues surrounding the OOM and in particular the understanding of the scoring systems in place. As with everything in the society we want to learn and improve things and this competition is no different.
Therefore, it was advised that the best way to approach the OOM would be to retain a "simple system" so that everyone could understand what was going on - the challenge was to make it more appealing to more members and to make people want to do well in it.
The Chairman spoke about the possibility of organising a match against another society and the 12 representatives for this match will be picked based on the OOM - similar to what's done for the Ryder Cup from the European Tour Merit system. It was discussed about making this an overnight trip somewhere to play a different society - but it was agreed that in the first instance we should do this as a single days play to see if it works and is something that grabs member interest. It was felt there was no point in creating extra work if ultimately people aren't overly fussed. For the test run, it was agreed by members that we should try and organise the match for late summer/September time and use the OOM table as it stands at that point. If it all works well, then in future seasons the team will be selected form the finishing places in October with the match being played in November each season.
Therefore, the suggestion is that the 12 players for Team Bunkers will be picked from the top 8 players in the OOM [if someone doesn't want to go, then the 9th person is asked and so on until 8 players are picked from the table] The Captain of the Society gets a free invite and can pick 3 wildcards from players who do not quality from the OOM. If the Captain does not wish to attend, then the committee will decide who will represent the society as Captain and the process carries on.
MOTIONS SUBMITTED AND VOTED
- We propose competition scoring should remain the same as 2017. The simpler the better - MOTION AGREED
- We propose to organise a minimum of 2 matches against other local societies during the 2018 season. These will be played on a midweek evening in the summer months [June to Sept] and will take place on Berrington Hall GC [at a great green fee rate] Each team will submit 12 players to take part in the competition. Bunkers team will be picked from the positions in the Order of Merit, as they are 14 days prior to the date of the match.
The 12 man team will be picked as follows: The Captain will be reserved a place regardless of their position in the O.O.M and they may pick 2 “Wildcards” [Thats ANY 2 players from the society] The remaining 9 players will be selected in order of their positions in the O.O.M. If a player declines, it will simply drop to the next player in the O.O.M.
For example, all players in the OOM say they would like to play, apart from the member placed in 5th and 8th. The two remaining places are then offered to the players in 10th and 11th in the OOM table. If they decline, we keep going until we fill the spaces - MOTION AGREED
11. matters for member approval
The final part of the evening was to cover any points that had not already been discussed and voted upon.
MEMBER PACKS
EVENTS & FORMATS
COURSES
CHARITY/SOCIAL NIGHT
ANY OTHER BUSINESS/IDEAS...
MEMBER PACKS
- We propose to continue with members shirts in 2018 – and again will look at obtaining suitable value and quality [like the UA ones of the last two seasons] – MOTION AGREED
- Would people be interested in a new Bunkers jumper or are they happy with the 2017 one and I’ll just get reissues of these for anyone who wants a replacement or new members who want one? – VOTED TO RETAIN 2017 JUMPER
EVENTS & FORMATS
- We propose [if dates work and its possible] that the Opening event of the 2017 will be “The Captain’s Drive-in” and the Captain plays at the courtesy of the society - MOTION AGREED
- Do members want us to consider a “Yellow Ball” competition early/late in the season? - MOTION AGREED
- We propose to have 10 weekend events [4 of these are Majors] during our season from 18th March to 15th October 2017 [That’s one weekend event every 3 weeks on average] - MOTION AGREED
- We propose to have 5 or 6 weekday events between May and 15th September 2017 – MOTION AGREED
- We propose to have the formats of events picked in advance for weekend competitions and weekdays will be flexible and decided on the day. If the numbers do not allow for a particular type of format on a weekend then we will have to show flexibility and drop back to an alternative [usually Stableford] – MOTION AGREED
- We propose “The Wide Open” Major in July will be played in as a Medal and be conducted in Strokeplay with all other Majors remaining as Stableford [as in 2017] – MOTION AGREED
COURSES
- We want to open the season with a bang, and therefore it is important [in my opinion] to open with a very good club. Therefore, we propose the season will open on the weekend of 31st March 2018 with the best winter deal/club we can find on a suitably dry 'winter friendly course' – MOTION AGREED
CHARITY/SOCIAL NIGHT
- We propose to host another charity or social night for members and their partners/friends. This will be hosted at an independent venue – not the LMS host club as in 2017 - MOTION AGREED
ANY OTHER BUSINESS/IDEAS...
- Chris Parrish suggested looking at getting a waterproof jacket as opposed to a shirt/jumper in 2018. It was pointed out by Stu Seddon that the amount of money that would be spent to obtain this jacket at a fair price for all, would mean that several people who already own expensive waterproofs would probably never wear it in favour of their more expensive item and thus it would be a waste of money for some - MOTION DECLINED
- Members discussed the End of Season and the majority voted that the trip should be in a hotel venue [all under one roof] and cost less than £150 for 1 night and be within 2 hours of Liverpool
- Keith Long suggested keeping the same teams for CvP for continuity - it was explained that it was picked based on the finishing positions of the Order of Merit and that the teams could become 'skewed' with quality as years progress as players leave and new players join and are then appointed a team - MOTION DECLINED
IN CLOSING...
It just leaves me to sincerely thank all members for their positive attitude towards the society and their commitment to all the things we do. Without that, we simply wouldn't exist in the manner we do.
Special thanks to the members who attended the AGM and played a key part in making all of the above decisions. It was a long and detailed meeting but enthusiasm for the ideas remained high.
I would also like to extend special thanks to the committee lads who do a lot of work behind the scenes and are often put under pressure by me to answer calls, texts and emails. Their dedication to make this society the best it possibly can be is one of the reasons we have such positive feedback from people looking in from the outside.
The season may have stopped but the hard work of organising 2018 has only just begun.
Here's hoping we continue to go from strength to strength.
Thank you.
Special thanks to the members who attended the AGM and played a key part in making all of the above decisions. It was a long and detailed meeting but enthusiasm for the ideas remained high.
I would also like to extend special thanks to the committee lads who do a lot of work behind the scenes and are often put under pressure by me to answer calls, texts and emails. Their dedication to make this society the best it possibly can be is one of the reasons we have such positive feedback from people looking in from the outside.
The season may have stopped but the hard work of organising 2018 has only just begun.
Here's hoping we continue to go from strength to strength.
Thank you.
Andy Roper - Chairman